The Great Seducer (2018)

i really like this drama
strong plot , never get bored and cute love

away from harsh reviews which i saw at the beginning,
i decided to give it a try and i never regret
i enjoyed it
it has lots of heartwarming moments

somehow it shows how love can turn monsters into real human beings

but what provoked me much
how ga young was so selfish till the end

i thought during time passed she is going to discover that her feelings towards (do hwan) wasn't real
and when (min jae) left her she is going to know her real feelings towards him specially she was feeling jealous on him much more than (do hwan)
but that doesn't happen
and although she knew how much he loved her
she goes to him at the end but still in love with (do hwan) which annoys me so much

and what provoked me also, the FL (joy)
she already forgave (do hwan) and said that when she was beside his bed at the hospital
then suddenly left him and time jump for 5 yrs with no logical reason
then he came back and she told him why u r late???
REALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and i was so sad about the end of (ha nee) and her boyfriend

i hate KD's epilogues just rubbish
except that the drama was really great

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The first episode caught my attention I loved the rich, beautiful and young concept.
I thought the k-drama would centre around the friendship of rich young kids and how they survive and conquer the world together. I could see that their friendship was sacred to them so I thought they would hold onto it and protect.
But then the k-drama turned to a different direction which I didn’t mind until the drama turned into something I didn’t want to watch anymore but I had to finish it to find out what happened at the end.
This drama will wreck some of your heads and annoy you but trust me your not the only one. The people who I wanted to end up together didn’t which kinda made me frustrated but overall the actors are great and did an amazing job

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would be better off without the romance dramarama

Took me 3 years to finally watch this drama, and I have to say that I finally realized why there's so many complaints about it.
The fact that this was similiar to Cruel Intentions got me intrigued. I've watched the movie years ago and was wondering how would they pull it off, but the lack of originality here was slightly off putting. They could have made this better if they dropped the romantic/family issues plot and the bunch of secondary characters that got dragged along the plotline and focused on that friendship between the trio. It would be nice to see friendship prevail and win instead of love being the holy savior per usual.

It got to a point where I was rolling my eyes at some scenes mainly between the leads and all the pointless drama and endless breakups that I was starting to wonder if this was based on any Chinese drama, heaven knows Waking Love Up as an example of one too many breakups and misunderstandings was just like that, where the leads had constant breakup in 40 episodes. Praise the LORD this one only had 32 episodes, but holy skittles it was too damn long. This could have worked on a 16 episodes if they did better plot.

Honestly I only finished this because of Kim Min Jae's character Lee Se Joo. He was by far my favorite of the whole show. And in second I have to point out Moon Ga Young's character Choi Soo Ji. WHY these two? Se Joo had everything that many characters lacked hence he was my favorite. Still, I liked both because of the complexity of their personalities and feelings.
In the beginning I liked Si Hyun too, he was part of the trio and his character seemed to be interesting too, however, after a couple episodes in the sudden change in him could not be considered a character development but a conflict of guilty feelings.

"The three of us aren't like other friends. The secrets and pain we've shared are beyond your imagination."

This was true.
The foundation of their friendship wasn't exactly healthy in many ways, but we cannot deny that it was real.
The whole through thick and thin could label these three. They relied on each other because they shared the pain and anguish that plagued their hearts because of their twisted and broken families. It scared them and made them distrustful and wear masks or have certain behaviors so to cope with everything when they in fact needed guidance. They were all lost in a maze of cruel intentions, falling victims by the adults decisions that surrounded them, with their cunning ways to discard them easily leaving them to live a hell in their own hollow homes.

"We had a hideout only we could get into, it was more comfortable and warmer than home."

So, they came together and were the 3 against the world, Se Joo helped them have a place where they could refugee themselves from their wrecked homes, a secret haven where they could be themselves even though they had no clue on who they were by that point. Nevertheless, they gathered there no matter if it snowed or rained and had fun, or shared secrets, hanging out to support one another or brag about any conquer they had made, it was a place to vent and be free. And it lasted until the house of cards came crumbling down on them.
When they succumbed to the pressure of their latest scheme and to the pressure of all the troubles between families and conflicted emotions buried inside their hearts and others.

"It has become an empty nest."

When everything fell apart even that place become a place with both good and haunting memories.

"Relationships like those are all bound to change."
"All relationships change. Friends, lovers and even family. If you aren't sincere, it just changes a bit quicker."

We cannot blame one sole individual here for the turmoil that affected the trio's friendship. They were all at fault in one way or another, some more than others. Tae Hee was their initial toy and therefore a victim of their sick play and bet, but at the same time her character was infuriating in certain attitudes. Perhaps its the humanity she had, we are greedy, selfish and impulsive. And we can't deny that there was a certain hypocrisy in her actions too. Mainly when it came to love, she was at first one who preferred to chose friendship over love. How quick did she change that, and made Si Hyun to chose between those too.

"You, me and Se Joo. We only had each other when times were tough.
We truly believed... that if it wasn't for the three of us, no one would understand us. We believed so.
That was so natural for me until this day. But I do not... feel like that anymore."

Only in his case he gave up on his friends for her love. What in fact made him fall in love for her? That's the mystery.
It is shown in the drama that he wasn't always heartless punk that seduces women for fun, he has a caring side for those who are close in his affections, and in his heart he had 3 people, his late mom, and his two best friends Choi Soo Ji and Lee Se Joo.
These two stayed with him in the toughest moments, and shared his pain as he shared theirs. And yet the three of them still never attempt to know more about each other, only linked by their personal pains to care about details because the granted thought that their friendship was everlasting was more than enough. So, why was it so easy for him to leave them in the end?

"Could she ever... mean more to you than us?"

And because of a girl he fell in love with. To me it felt like an obsession of sorts at first. Almost as if he had been in the dark for so long and the minute she came and shed some light, he held onto to her with all his might so he could be pulled out. But, instead of pulling his friends with him, and giving a second chance and save them all, he chose to leave them in their darkness.
It wasn't hard to see the spiral that was coming for the three of them with the bet they made and how it would affect them.

That was a turning point for the trio, and one of the many ominous things that would lead to their end.

Si Hyun was having a hard time, but so were all the others. Soo Ji was always so self-centered in her own pain to acknowledge anyone else. Se Joo was too good at hiding behind a mask of cheerfulness and indifference when he was perhaps the one who was hurting the most not only emotionally but physically too given all the abuse he faced by his own family members. He was the glue that kept the trio together, but after endless tries of mending the cracks in their foundation, he too started to feel helpless on how further could he hold onto to everyone else when no one even held out to him in the first place.

"Was I the only one who wanted to hold us three together?"

For that and many more he is my favorite. He was the strongest of the three of them. Makes me mad on how they all took him for granted in everything he said and did, because he deserved better than that. He was just as scared as they were, he had his sick mother in the hospital which I believe neither Soo Ji or Si Hyun knew, and his family members were cunning and abusive that he would spent more time outside or running way from a place that should be his home, to friends that neglected him therefore he was always in a certain way alone. Still, he coped. He masked his own pain and helped others with theirs. He kept his feelings for Soo Ji hidden until he could no longer conceal them as before, and he wore his heart on his sleeve. He was honest and open minded, and not afraid to speak his mind or being true to himself even it meant to be brokenhearted or hurt.

"I wanted to make sure no one changed. Nothing went wrong. It's just that... we changed a little."

Soo Ji might have been a complex character, but when it come to all the most complex was Se Joo.

"Anemone. Betrayal, helpless love, empty love, thanks for being there for me.
I will give you my everything even if you do not love me, I still love you."
"It has so many meanings and every one of them is sad."

The meaning behind Soo Ji's favorite flower is everything that depicts Se Joo and how he feels. Maybe that's why he memorized each and every meaning and was always offering them to her, so she could acknowledge him in the end.

"The three of us can't be together forever, but... no one should get their hearts broken."
"Are you talking about yourself?"
"No. It's about you and Si Hyun. Both of you... suffered enough because of your parents."

As if he wasn't in pain and suffering too. The longing and painful stare he gave to both of them in many situations ignored or neglected were heartbreaking. His actions and decisions, were solely in prol of both Soo Ji and Si Hyun, although at a certain point he took Soo Ji's side when Si Hyun replaced them quickly. Because in his heart and mind suddenly all that mattered was Tae Hee and nothing and no one else that he even neglected his friends. Si Hyun could have tried better to work on both. This is one of too many motives that I would prefer this to be focused on their friendship only and make it prevail, that the three of them could help and improve themselves and get out of their own prisons. That there is love in friendship too, that family does not always end in blood. We can create our own family too, and they are as close as they could be given everything.

"After we turn 20, let's just light three candles. However old we are, one each for the three of us.
Lee Se Joo, Choi Soo Ji and Kwon Si Hyun. That's three."

How much did this promise meant to Si Hyun, that he never cared for it when he was the one who suggested ?
The other two never failed it though, even through the course of years they held onto to it even when he forgot all about it.

"The three of us always celebrated his birthday together. We left school early just for that.
He pushed us aside now that he has a girlfriend. He said he didn't need us now."

That was a low blow, and Tae Hee's yellow smiles and feigning ignorance was too. She was not the sole responsible for the broken friendship, but she was part of the cataclysm that caused it and she did not make an effort to persuade Si Hyun to give any chance to his friends and she did not make one either. Sure, Soo Ji wasn't the easiest to deal with, but rather than anger at the world she was mostly sad and lonely and afraid of being left alone because of past traumas.

"Si Hyun told me this once.
He said that his friendship with Se Joo and you is... something precious that can't be described in words.
That's why I envied you guys. Because I wanted to be someone he treasured too.
When he was with me, he would leave and go to you guys. There were times when I was disappointed and resentful."

This showed her level. She was mostly jealous, and preferred that he cut ties with his "toxic" friends. Those who had his back.
Because Soo Ji liked Si Hyun, he once like her too, although it felt more like an infatuation of his teenager years. We can say Soo Ji was probably his first love, but afraid of ruining their friendship he did not dare to give the next step. The same went for her, Si Hyun was her first love, but given her distrust towards relationships she feared any confession so she preferred playing games, as for Se Joo, he was torn between his first love and the loyalty towards his friend, mainly when both were his best friends so he concealed everything inside, and the three of them went just like that along the years. Losing the right time.

"Instead of plotting this stupid game, you should've just.. liked Si Hyun outright. What were you scared off?"
"Aren't you the same? Too sacred of something to admit the truth?"
"You're right. I'm the stupidest of the three."

In my opinion Se Joo was the most mature out of the three of them.

"We can't go back to how we used to be."
"You're right. Si Hyun is gone. We can never go back to how we used to be.
Do you think we won't be lonely... even if it was just the two of us?"
"We were lonely at times... even when there were the three of us."

That was because in their friendship it lacked communication. Although the feelings were there, and they shared common interests and levels of pain and suffering, they started to keep secrets that were bound to destroy everything they had built.

"I'll at least... make you feel less lonely than... when the three of us were together."
"I thought we would never change. When did everything begin to go wrong, and since when have I done so much wrong?
If I had told him that I liked him first... when he asked me why I didn't trust anyone, if I had told him that I trusted him, would he have come down to this?"

Nothing is certain that things would have gone in a different direction if that was to happen. Still, it's undeniable how the love and friendship between them could have been better to save them all from their own predicaments instead of this messy plot.
Why creating three strong characters only to ruin them by torn them like so? It was brutal and unnecessary. Skipping the whole goody two shoes FL cliché, and the whole FL past is linked to the family of the ML, and they fall in love and tragedy blah blah blah would be way better. I even rooted more for Se Joo and Soo Ji than the leads, because they carried the whole show.

"Why are you always sorry? You're the one who's done the most for the three of us."

Glad that it took a sum of about 30 episodes for Soo Ji to acknowledge this about Se Joo. Sadly, Si Hyun cut ties with both and never acknowledge anything with his puppy love for Tae Hee's. Begging for her forgiveness and love? If it weren't for Se Joo telling her the whole truth who knows when Si Hyun would have the courage to do so, and yet he snapped and made the no turning point by punching his best friend, and then punching the frame of the picture of the three of them therefore ending their friendship. Through the course of the drama he lost points for me, and it's a pity I love Do Hwan and he made a good job with his character, the fault is in the script and the mess that it become.

"Now let the flow take us wherever it may be."

In conclusion of this long text I made. It's not a perfect drama with a good storyline. You'll start this and love the trio for about 3 or 4 episodes in, and when you reach episode 6 or so you will see the route it will have and the amount of frustration ahead.
The puppy romance wasn't it for me, most people felt biased for the trio and despite their toxicity so did I, preferring that it would be more about them than anyone else. Either they would go down the road of total perdition or redemption, they could have saved themselves if friendship prevailed over the typical cliché romance. Too many side characters and plot holes here dragging the plot or adding more intense drama and being linked to the past. Some characters appeared when needed to create conflict and stir things up and other's vanished in thin air without explanation as to what happened to them. A mess.

The only highlight here was the trio and mainly Se Joo. And that's about it.

Sadly it did not last, but I like to imagine an AU where despite their bets and games, it led to no romance.
Where Si Hyun and Soo Ji sorted out their feelings, and in a way Se Joo too, and having them be their first loves, who knows if they would be the ending game, however, their friendship would remain strong and with time and commitment and with proper help and sheer power of will lighter and brighter. So, that the three of them could escape their demons together, and leave their troubles away. That would be nice to see. Instead of what they gave us. An open ending that should lead to a second season, where the trio could mend their broken friendship and begin anew with their healing hearts after 5 years...

The OST was okay. The drama itself felt like a mix of Cruel Intentions and Gossip Girl. It wasn't bad but, could have been better.

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Before I start telling everyone how amazing this show is,I just have a question to everyone who says that this kdrama is horrible,I MEAN WHAATTTT ON PLANET EARTH DO YOU ACTUALLY MEAN, tbh I thought it would be horrible and I would coerce my self to watch it but turns out this became one of my favorite kdramas. I honestly don’t know why everyone thinks it’s bad, I mean it has a happy ending and everything as I was expecting,I agree that happy ending is not for everyone there but this is just how life is ,not everything goes as we thought or as we expected. The story is just beautiful even though there are a lot of sad and hurtful moments,but that doesn’t change the fact that everything in this drama was amazing, I cried a lot because this drama was just painful in every meaning,but there were also moments of joy and happiness in their eyes. I totally recommend it,It’s just amazing,I don’t know what everyone expected but I love this drama so much.

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As much as people bash this drama, I have to say.. I LOVED it. The plot line was great, the emotional pain from each character was intense and well thought out.

I see people saying that some of the actors/actresses didn't do well or didn't fit the roles which I disagree with completely. Joy was great in this.. she played her emotionally damaged character amazingly. I felt that she really brought all the pain through with everything she did.

For example, after Shi-Hyun (Woo Do-Hwan) reveals the plan to Tae-Hee (Joy) She feels hurt and betrayed but she can't help but continue to feel these intense feelings towards Shi-Hyun. Hatred but love.

People seem to be numb to the fact that her character was incredibly emotionally unstable because of all the shit that happened to her throughout the story and how much she presented herself as a strong character and closed herself off from love because of the events between her mother and her father, and I believe in that manner Joy played this character REALLY well.

I felt the chemistry to be quite good and made me cry quite a bit. It wasn't intense sobbing or anything (we'll leave that to DOTS) but it was a decent cry. (ESPECIALLY when Shi-Hyun cries/cried.

In conclusion I felt this drama to be quite good despite what most people have said and i honestly think Joy did amazing in her role despite what anyone thinks. I honestly have rewatched this drama a few times but i feel like after 1-2 rewatches it's kinda boring.

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Unlike most of the opinions here I surprisingly enjoyed...I'd rather say LOVED this drama !! The whole drama was not perfect I have to admit but I found it lovely. The reasons are:

???? The Actors: The casting was well chosen (especially for the young actors).
I really loved Woo Do Hwan and Joy's chemistry. I was so emotional every time I saw them together in the drama (I screamed, laughed, giggled). Their relationship was so cute ! The other characters like Se Joo and Soo Ji were also touching, I could not hate them even when they did wrong. And Damn they are all good-looking folks!
(I did not really enjoyed the parents but they were ok. )

???? The Music: I really enjoyed the drama's OST ! It always made me in a good mood and DK's song...so touching <3 <3
The classical music used for the background was conceptual and contributed to the overall atmosphere of the drama.

???? The plot itself is not faithful to the original novel but they managed to create something quite interesting. I often got bored when I saw the parents/adults on the screen but the young adults' parts always captivated me. The drama was a bit long and the end was rushed. I am a bit disappointed that there is no real future for the team Soo Ji, Se Joo, Si Hyun. And even if there is a happy ending for the main couple, I wanted to see more (like a hug or how they would live together after 5 years) !!

Even with these critics I still plan to rewatch it in a few months or years because I really enjoyed the actors' chemistry and the overall mood of the drama! I really spent good times watching this drama, so I'll definitely watch it again !

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I have read a lot of criticism against this drama, and I suppose that is because of the hype leading up to the release. And so I wanted to focus on the praise I have for this drama.

This was the drama that ultimately caused me to go back to watching k-dramas, I have to admit I’m a sucker for these Wattpad-story-like plots where there is a bad boy who ultimately falls in love with the good girl. Joy is one of my biggest girl crushes so I couldn’t be happier with the casting. I had read the synopsis and so I had some expectations since it was a storyline I was heavily invested in, yet I ended up feeling content with how they decided to pull it off - although throughout the drama I sometimes had to skip forward out of frustration. Despite all this I enjoyed watching it, however it’s not something I would consider rewatching again since the effect is only really there the first time.

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I just binge watched this show in 2 days (yes I have no life). I have a lot to say so bear with me. Okay guys *cracks knuckles*
Note: The plot seems promising at first but it eventually turns into your average kdrama plot. My rating is not good because of the plot but because of the brilliantly well-written characters and the amazing acting by the main cast. It's a one time watch. Have fun watching it and don't take it that seriously. Before watching it throw out all your expectations and assumptions (especially if you've read the book or watched Dangerous Liasions (1988) or Cruel Intentions (1999).

First of all, the cast is amazingly good. The acting is phenomenal. Woo Do Hwan did a great job portraying Shi Hyun. He had the whole melancholic, guilty and conflicted vibe of the character down to a T. Also he oozed sexiness and cuteness as required by the scene. He was perfect to play this character. Now, Moon Ga Young was the one who stole the show. She portrayed Soo Ji's character so perfectly. Joy also did well. I didn't expect much from her but she exceeded my expectations. All the other actors too played their characters very well.The characters are so very well-written. They are complex characters with deep flaws and fears. They pull from you the reactions they desire. The characters are multifaceted and you can't just only hate or love them. You come to identify with them, sympathize with them despite their faults and feel what they are going through. Honestly though, it's hard to find such truly well-written, complex, flawed characters that truly seem human.The plot is loosely based on the French novel 'Les Liaisons dangereuses'. I've read the book and seen the American adaptation. So I was very apprehensive to be honest. 4 episodes in I got so attached with the characters that I mentally prepared myself to bawl my eyes out. Anyway, it's a very loose adaptation. The plot was very good in the beginning. The whole mystery factor coupled with suspected betrayals and twisted games was very interesting. It gave you high hopes. Though the plot seems obvious and the twists predictable but it was still enough to get you hooked. Though I was sorely disappointed when they didn't turn out as I expected. I expected it to be more dark, twisted and gritty. A true tragedy. It wasn't though. It started lagging in the middle. Most plot reveals were milder than we had been lead to believe. It picked back up in the ending. I was really surprised (in a good way) by the ending because I was expecting something very different. But the ending was good.Honestly, what made this show worth watching was the amazingly well-written and beautifully portrayed characters. The acting was the best thing about this show. The plot failed to meet the expectations it created in the starting. But at least it wasn't that disappointing. Many kdramas have worse endings and truly lacking plots. It was still a good watch. It gets you hooked and you just have to see it through to the end.

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Honestly speaking I did enjoy this show but it could have done better. No hate to Joy, I love Red Velvet, but the role didn’t really suit her. For me, Joy suits the sexy, mature role rather than the role she had in the drama (I don’t know how to describe it). On the other hand, the supporting female actress was so good. She felt more like a leading actress than Joy. I think her name was Moon Ga Young but either way she was amazing and i mainly watched the show for her. Kudos to the other male actors (leading and supporting) they were both really good and knew how to portray their roles in an entertaining enticing way. As a side note: for this plot I feel that they should have made Joy’s role a stronger character. Her role was too much of a weak character for my taste. Like I didn’t really feel any strong emotions when it came to scenes where the character would get really mad or upset.

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A dare which changes the life

•A bet, a challenge, a dare which ultimately changes your life.

•Story- so its based on dangerous liaisons where a dumped girl wants revenge and uses her best friends. And ending wasn’t even appealing. Jumps to a timeshift with leads meeting again. Nobody gets the punishment for their wrongdoings is not satisfactory. It went draggy somewhere

•Acting-Choi soo ji was very bully, manipulative and mean. She was like playing with everyone life around her. Tae hee was our usual hard working, confident female lead falling for a bad guy. Her performance was good but not impressive that I would remember. Woo Do Hwan as Kwon si hyun is the only character which makes you finish the show. Otherwise I would have dropped it. His dilemmas with family,friend and love was beautifully presented. The only part I hated was why he didn’t make a decision and just go and forth between his friends and love. His ways of wooing tae hee was also nice.

•Music- OMG by joy had some great music and this ost was my fav.
•Rewatch- no, as this drama was hard to finish the first time only. If I had to rewatch only the romance scenes would be worth it
•conc-Dark and painful story but fails to impress inspite of the good cast. And as high schoolers can they really do that going around clubs seducing teacher and talking shit. This was the very worst kind of student discipline. Appreciation would be for how they all try to keep their friendship but they already had created wedge from the start of the story.

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was a highly anticipated drama starring joy as FL

imo did not live up to its expectations, too many cliches and you could tell what was going to happen.
the character who carried this drama was sejoo (played by kim minjae)
the rest of the characters were boring and cliche, didn’t have the oomf factor like my baby sejoo did >:c
fl&ml were super awkward and had no chemistry imo
second fl played her character well but i just dont like her in general so the cast wasn’t that great for me, esp joy
i dont think her acting is on par w the rest?? she did ok but thats bc her character isn’t that hard to play w idol actors. sejoo was the only character who was refreshing to watch in the drama. i felt so bad that he liked 2nd fl but she liked the ml lead instead and to make it worst they’re all friends but they always seem to leave him out? anyway he outsold ml :/

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