For Him (2023)

Less BTS and More Story

The production wasted a capable cast with poor editing, storytelling and plot holes. All of the couples, including the MxF couples were engaging but the editing was horrible. I hate the new guy is a twin to the dead boyfriend, especially when this does not get resolved. In one scene the new guy Nail proclaims he s not a replacement for Blue, Him goes home all dejected, then. Him and Nail walk into Him's house holding hands. They didn't even show the reconciliation! So is Nail a replacement for Blue and he has accepted it, or did Him assure him that he sees him as Nail, a totally different person? Yet they had behind the scenes footage. Anyway, I do not recommend and it's a shame because the cast was very good.

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ça se laisse regarder mais ne pas s'attendre à de la grande qualité

alors commençons par l'histoire. Gros potentiel mais très mal ficelé. Il manque des parties dans le script et a la fin c'est limite expédié
Ensuite la production; il y a des erreurs de sons et de montage dans certains plans. Parfois le cut est si énorme qu'il manque clairement des scenes pour expliquer ou on en est. Les cut de fin d'épisodes sont grossiers et les enchainements entre 2 épisodes sont inexistants.

Les jeux d'acteurs: Le couple principale a une réelle complicité et une intimité sincère.
Les couples secondaire est bizarre. je n'adhère pas au "fait ce que tu as à faire". C'est trop plat et parfois ça manque d'émotions. Il faut différencier paraître dure et renfermé d'inexpressif et blasé.
Les couples tertiaires sont expédiés. Y'en a même un, son partenaire n'a pas été introduit, il a pop de nul part.

Après ça se laisse regarder une fois mais pas 2.

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A QUÍMICA ENTRE OS PROTAGONISTAS E A TRAMA DOS COADJUVANTES SÃO AS ÚNICAS COISAS QUE SALVAM

O ponto alto dessa série é a química entre os atores e é por isso que a série começa muito bem (apesar do Nail ser um personagem bem chatinho na maior parte do tempo) mas conforme vamos sendo introduzidos a história e a "presença" do Blue tudo desmorona muito rápido.
Eu estava muito mais interessada nos casais secundários do que na ladainha do Blue que durou praticamente a série inteira e não fazia o menor sentido.
Então novamente, a química é o ponto alto. As cenas sexuais são quentes e impecáveis, uma das melhores que eu já vi na vida e a série ganha pontos por isso. Os momentos fofos também eram gostosos de se ver mas o roteiro estava me irritando o tempo todo.

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One word: Eschew

This story is profoundly complex, made elementary. Yet, it should not. It presents itself in a superficial manner with a lot of voyeuristic sex scenes to help us with our escapism from its true reality. And its true reality is that it is a very sad story filled with toxic people doing awful things to innocent people. I found the story to be a rather ugly tale peppered with unnecessary eroticism. This series has a lot of diversion in it. Many hot, steamy love scenes, that felt very voyeuristic to me and sometimes laughable. Sure, these guys are sensual, cute, and sexy. To see them romping around in bed making love with their pants on is just plain ludicrous and silly. It was just not the main couple either. How about under the covers with simulation so we can use our imagination? Sometimes imagination is better. To show us making love in bed (or having sex) with pants on seemed extraordinarily contrived and silly. And completely and totally unrealistic. And I might add, insulting to gay people everywhere.

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For Him, not For Me

12 episodes of For Him could've been easily condensed down to 8. Sometimes an episode was 45 mins, and sometimes it was barely 30 with 20 mins of BTS footage thrown in. The story is all over the place and loses itself many times. Lots of inconsistencies with the plot and even just the filming of it. The hair colors are all over the place, at different grow out periods for both of the main actors. Sometimes Nail was fully orange, sometimes not, sometimes it changed multiple times in an episode. Same thing for Him and his gray hair. This continued throughout and even in the last episode with Nail's painted nails, there was no consistency. And this overwhelming misstep really takes a few stars off for me.

Also, NC scenes are great and wonderful, but I felt like the NC scenes somehow were more of a priority than the overall plot of this show. And let me be clear, the NC scenes were mostly all enjoyable, but they are definitely not a replacement for actual story and depth. That missing element was definitely felt multiple times.

Overall Positives:
- Thor was a redeeming factor for me. His acting felt real and he fully allowed himself to be absorbed in Nail's world (and also Blue's).
- Side pairing Chao / Pie was also cute. I really loved their dynamics.

Overall Negatives:
- Dew's acting bothered me a lot, because it felt like acting (if that makes sense)
- Pacing and inconsistencies of the episodes and storylines.
- Didn't enjoy the BTS scenes added into episodes, that was super annoying.
- Also didn't like the intro, was wayyyy too long and seemed cheaply made.

I think the actors definitely deserved a better script. They did the best with what they were given. Hope to see them in something more substantial and solid in the future.

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Mediocre actor with bad production

I wouldn’t say I am disappointed with this series but its not exactly a good or bad series either. I mean I was looking forward to watch this series because of Dew, but I think the problem here is the editing, the plot and the directing. Sometimes the transition between Scene A to Scene B is not that smooth which makes me ponder who let these people edit this series ?. The sex scenes are delicious since they been too generous sometimes the sex scenes are too long for me. Like you include their kiss scenes for 3 minutes straight for what?

The plot is meh. I mean the story has potential but the way they develop it is not that well. I wish they could include the part where Nail fighting more with Him on whether Him truly feels him as replacement of Blue. Also, there is no elaboration in this series and I am so pissed the fact that one episode only have like 30 minutes airtime only and the remaining 15 minutes are for BTS. Like un hello?

The series could either have 12 episodes with much plot development or 8 episodes with the same plot. Cause to be honest, i dont think 12 episodes are necessary and I am quite shooketh that this series is under GMM-25. Usually GMMTV took it serious about the plot but what is this miss gurl?

Though I like how at the actors portray their characters, the real winning point here is really those 4 straight girls hhahah. I like that the girls instead of trans to portray comedic role since its rare to see trans have proper role, i think its time to variety those role.

Nutshell, mediocre actor, poor plot development and poor editing

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Even the subtitle team seams to have given up

Fortunately my Thai is finally good enough to watch the final episode without subtitles, which is how it was released to iQYI. Maybe the subtitle team was a bored with the series as I was. With frequent use of the fast forward button I was able to slog through this series, but barely.
The story is thin. There are no significant character arcs apart from "things happen and are dealt with". The acting is mostly manneristic and stiff. The music is unmemorable. I honestly don't remember any of it.
There main story point, new crush resembles former boyfriend who killed himself, is good for maybe six episodes, and in this case it wasn't developed very convincingly so it supports five or six very dull episodes. The story needed a lot more bones to support a full 12 episode series.

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Okay... well

I'm kind of disappointed, I wanted to like this show but it just fell flat to me > I was also upset we didn't get a plot twist or something about Blue, I feel like It would've made things interesting > Also upset we didn't get to see their camping trip, I feel like that would've been cute to see instead of Him and Nail doing it for the 5th time

The whole last episode was just Him and Nail doing It for 40 minutes because I feel like they didn't have anything else to do. > I wanted to see more of a Chao spicy scene but all we got was Phai giving him head with Chao's pants on

The collagen had more screen time than poor baby Chao > The fact that Nail just got that tattoo done and He put his foot right by it..no thank you

Maybe im too picky but I wanted more out of this show, I feel like they could've had a really good, drama-filled, plot twist kind of show > I was secretly hoping Nail was either Blue himself or his twin back to seek revenge on Him or something > They gave us the setup, in the beginning, to get our minds thinking of different theories that could be possible but in the end, there was just nothing.

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started of really strong

The first 2/3 of the series is well produced and edited, then something happened. It’s also like they kind of gave up on the story line? I’m not sure. The plot isn’t jumpy and difficult to follow, and the series is an easy watch. Someone compared it to an old soap opera and I like that analogy.

Acting wise its a little stiff at times, not as natural as I personally would have liked. Its not bad, just sometimes feel like they are delivering lines they are uncomfortable with or doesn’t come natural to them to say.

It’s def NC heavy, some scenes better done than others. And some edited a lot better in the post-production than others. My take away is that the production company started to do a bad job somewhere in the process of making this series and that is hurting the overall feel of quality more than the delivery of the actors.

Will I rewatch? Maybe, maybe not. Probably only the first half, if I do.

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Missed the plot

I agree with a lot of reviews about this drama. I expected so much from the first episodes and BIM... Nothing
They put a lot of effort to build the vilain in the drama, and the back story was great. The fact that Him had PTSD, the fact that Nail was Blue doppelganger, the ex who cheated with a girl... all that could have made a great storyline. But the just denied everything. One episode they fight at the end, the next they already made up from the start, so it's confusing.
And all building the story to have absolutely no tension at the end.... Where was the drama????

Nothing was used and you feel watching episode 11 and 12 that it can't be IT. And you realize you lost your time.
Now, the side stories with Pie, who is doing what Him did to Blue to his new s.x buddy Chao. He tries to become his boyfriend, but he is still close to his ex who wanted to use Pie to make a s. tape for money. That could have been more dramatic, like the violence in "Love in the Air" r.ape scene, but nothing? Chao just caught the conversation, and saw the Instagram and that was all.

It was the first movie made by Wayu Pattharawut, CEO of Y entertainment and director for this drama. But it's not a good start. We had similar problems with "Unforgotten Night" who had great unused potential. Maybe the CEO should focus on making his YouTube Channel and social media clearer and employ scenarists that can actually make a novel better on screen!!!

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Starts great, quickly slips into poorly written melodrama filled with air.

Watched 9/12 Eps. Overall: I wanted more quietly sassy and flirtatious Nail like in Ep 1 & 2. I was immediately intrigued by, and empathetic for, him. I also liked that he communicated boundaries but was straightforward and kind about it while being firm. It was a fresh take on a character, especially a Thai BL one, and I loved it. Sadly, the former fades away and the later starts weakening half-way through.

Ep 1 & 2: Interesting! The characters and plot mystery is intriguing and the sex/intimacy satisfying. The long bathtub scene in Ep 2 is sensual and hot and done extremely well. The action, cinematography, music, and editing all work together to build a sensual crescendo. Some of the music so far is great too. These two Eps are the highlight out of the 9 that I watched.

Ep 3 & 4: Nothing memorable, but I was still hooked on the slowly-revealing mystery and looking forward to the next weekly episode.

Ep 5 & 6: Much weaker. Ep 6 especially felt more like set up for the next episode (instead of continuing the story). A lot of back-tracking to fill in a lot of history gaps at once; the previous episodes did a better job of balancing the present with insights into the past while keeping the overall story moving forward. Stopped looking forward to the next weekly episode.

Ep 7 Things keep going downhill. The entire episode is Him working to get Nail to listen to him explain and when the scene comes nothing is said! In fact, not much is said the entire episode, it's a bunch of air and some spoken statements. It's like the writer is allergic to conversations that actually go back and forth between people. There are so many latent pauses that the director/editor kept in to fill out the time. There are stereotypical "bad guys" scheming, but doing it poorly (Tec is so clueless in his approach that he's not really a threat; he keeps blatently rubbing Nail the wrong way). The "comedic" silly sound effects were copious and inane, when nothing is funny and the overall mood should be serious to sustain tension. My interest and hope in this series is sinking fast.

Ep 8 & 9: I debated dropping, but decided to give it one more chance and watched 8 & 9 back-to-back. And I *am* dropping now. At least I finally learned what happened to Blue in Ep 8. The story starts making leaps in character relationships and the progression of scenes without showing how things got there. I was so confused about Him, Nail, and Tec's first scene in Ep 8 after the way Ep 7 ended. How they got there makes no sense whatsoever. I thought I had missed an episode or something, but nope. The secondary couple is annoying, especially Chao. Tec and the cousin are 2-dimensional, delusional, low IQ, and irritating. The intimate scene between Him and Nail feels oddly forced/over-exaggerated this time, and it lacked the 'crescendo' built with actions, cinematography, and music that Ep 1 & 2 did so well with.

Tor as Nail/Blue is the most charismatic and nuanced actor of the cast. Not awesome, but above average, especially for a rookie. Everyone else is mediocre. Dew as Him shows some potential, but he is not a rookie, and his lack of range becomes more and more obvious as the story gets more dramatic and emotional for his character.

I might rewatch Ep 1 & 2 for fun sometime, but I certainly won't bother with the rest of it again.

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