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BL philosophy:

  • BL is a guilty pleasure.
  • Know your kink. People who kink-shame can go hang.
  • BL rankings are obviously measured on a different scale
  • There are not many second seasons on the list, I am a foreplay sort of person ;)

BL facts:

  • Lipgloss in Thailand is no joke
  • Fashion in Taiwanese BLs is questionable
  • All lists must have 3 points XD

BL rant in defense 

  • Stop campaigning against the portrayal of predatory/imbalanced relationships. They are part of the genre. And btw it's not like it's limited to BL. Hetero romances have their fair share of it.
    • You don't want to be in an imbalanced relationship? Well, nobody wants to be in the zombie apocalypse either... Think of the loss of entertainment we'd all suffer if they stopped making those movies.
    • You want to protect teenagers from getting the wrong ideas? That's  what age ratings and everybody's own judgement are for.  
    • You think it negatively effects the perception of gay relationships?  I am not even sure what you are trying to express with that arguement, but, people who watch BL already have a pretty open mind about relationships of all kinds, what could possibly make them change their mind about liking it?  Who ever watched a BL and thought 'there! I knew it - gays are the worst'?
    • It's fine if YOU don't like it. But some of us do. I don't want to read a moral breakdown of consent issues every time I watch a drama.  Argue about it if you will (that's good) or don't watch it (also perfetcly fine) but don't censor it, we have enough of that in the world
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  • Seven Days: Monday - Thursday

    1. Seven Days: Monday - Thursday

    Japanese Movie - 2015

    10

    yes yes ... I hear you. #1? How can I?  Well, I just love these two- what can I say?

  • Seven Days: Friday - Sunday

    2. Seven Days: Friday - Sunday

    Japanese Movie - 2015

    10
  • Only Friends

    3. Only Friends

    Thai Drama - 2023, 12 episodes

    10

    #intense playlist

    hook ups, no nice boys and fraying emotions, hot stuff.

  • Together With Me - The Next Chapter

    4. Together With Me - The Next Chapter

    Thai Drama - 2018, 13 episodes

    10

    Holy shit.

  • The Untamed

    5. The Untamed

    Chinese Drama - 2019, 50 episodes

    10

    censored adaptation of BL original novel. No actual BL in it but the FEEEELZ

  • Sotus: The Series

    6. Sotus: The Series

    Thai Drama - 2016, 15 episodes

    10

    this should really be the gold standard of BL

  • TharnType The Series

    7. TharnType The Series

    Thai Drama - 2019, 12 episodes

    10

    I recently read in a review: BL often shows problematic/imbalanced relationships. Fact. TharnType is one of them. Type is more than a bratty bottom, he's dominant, selfish, impulsive, controlling and let's not gloss over the 3 instances of physical abuse . But it makes his role very compelling. And it's not like Tharn doesn't start out coercive. The show has weaknesses but I really like the power reversal. And in the end: the ice cube kiss. #GulfMew have the best chemistry & Mild as P'No = <3

  • I Feel You Linger in the Air: Uncut Version

    8. I Feel You Linger in the Air: Uncut Version

    Thai Drama - 2023, 12 episodes

    10

    If you ever need to feel like you are a someone's entire universe listen to Khun Yai for 12 eps. Love poems, gentleness, kindness, romance, 100% dedicated, nothing fake, like he has this laser focus on his beloved. yes, he also looks stunning in period shirts but in this one just take the feels. 

    And the olive oil masturbation scene was a masterpiece.

  • Addicted Heroin

    9. Addicted Heroin

    Chinese Drama - 2016, 15 episodes

    10

    a rare gem. Chinese Mainland BL without censoring. It got banned before it finished- just take these delicious 15 eps and treasure them well!

  • Sotus S: The Series

    10. Sotus S: The Series

    Thai Drama - 2017, 13 episodes

    10

    A second season that is not a simple relationship rollercoaster!

  • Unknown

    11. Unknown

    Taiwanese Drama - 2024, 12 episodes

    10

    yummy. This has everything on my kinklist: mature plot, dark story, a young step brother, illegal fighting, light coersion, stunning acting, great chemistry

  • Bokura no Micro na Shuumatsu

    12. Bokura no Micro na Shuumatsu

    Japanese Drama - 2023, 8 episodes

    10

    The Japanese are just the best at raw feelings, dark eroticism & intricate plots in a few eps.

  • Moonlight Chicken

    13. Moonlight Chicken

    Thai Drama - 2023, 8 episodes

    10

    #damn

    # no skips

  • Together With Me The Series

    14. Together With Me The Series

    Thai Drama - 2017, 13 episodes

    10

    amazing chemistry and well developed friends.

  • Boys' Lockdown

    15. Boys' Lockdown

    Filipino Drama - 2020, 6 episodes

    10

    The sweetest, cutest mini romance. This will make you grin stupidly.

  • Llevo tu nombre grabado

    16. Llevo tu nombre grabado

    Taiwanese Movie - 2020

    10

    for a serious day. Heart-wrenching perfection.

  • Innocent Playmates

    17. Innocent Playmates

    Chinese Drama - 2023, 24 episodes

    10

    It's based on the same web novel als addicted. BUT completely different. mature, well developed, stunning chemistry. Beware the ending. I actually deliberately avoided the last 2 eps. Sadly no man-handling. Despite the censorship their relationship is undeniable from ep 20.  delicious!!

  • My Stand-In: Uncut

    18. My Stand-In: Uncut

    Thai Drama - 2024, 12 episodes

    10

    fact: Up really has no ass whatsoever.

  • Not Me

    19. Not Me

    Thai Drama - 2021, 14 episodes

    10

    End of 2021 is bringing us some out of the box BL. We're leaving the uni tropes and getting some gritty stories. GunOff are off the charts, great cinematography and writing & great support cast and second ship

  • Miracle

    20. Miracle

    Taiwanese Drama - 2023, 13 episodes

    10

    Sweet. Cute. Funny. Mature. Great acting. Watch out for the support couple. #mykink

  • HIStory3: Trapped

    21. HIStory3: Trapped

    Taiwanese Special - 2019, 20 episodes

    10

    honestly my favourite HIStory installment. 

  • HIStory2: Boundary Crossing

    22. HIStory2: Boundary Crossing

    Taiwanese Special - 2018, 8 episodes

    10

    4 eps is way too short for the lovely story. Both MLs are stunning, no stereotipical BL roles, very decent  kissing all around.

  • Theory of Love

    23. Theory of Love

    Thai Drama - 2019, 12 episodes

    9.5

    I love Third (portrayed masterly by Gun) and I cried not because it's that sad but because his suffering resonates in me. Delaying my rewatch because I am afraid it will not give me the same delicious suffering again.

  • Why R U? : The Series

    24. Why R U? : The Series

    Thai Drama - 2020, 13 episodes

    9.5

    Saint & Zee=steamy!

  • Triage

    25. Triage

    Thai Drama - 2022, 13 episodes

    9.0

    The story is soo strong - super realistic med drama with a time-loop twist, but Deus ex Maschina at the end. So unsatisfying and the be honest, we see one off-angle kiss. Their chemistry is decent but where's the snogging?

  • BKPP

    26. BKPP

    Thai Drama - 2020, 5 episodes

    9.5

    the sexual tension in this drama is wild - the cinematography and OST have me on my knees.

  • Love By Chance

    27. Love By Chance

    Thai Drama - 2018, 14 episodes

    9.5

    considering it's by MAME it's actually a very gentle relationship. Saint and Perth are not really ship-material but it's one of my favourites that I rewatch all the time.

    note to self: DO NOT - I repeat - DO NOT watch season II. The reviews are awful. Don't spoil it by watching them milk a dry cow.

  • EL Escritor Encantador

    28. EL Escritor Encantador

    Thai Drama - 2021, 12 episodes

    9.5

    Somebody give that writer an oscar for creating Gene - the maturest ML in the history of BL - awesome chemistry

  • Because of You

    29. Because of You

    Taiwanese Drama - 2020, 10 episodes

    9.5

    ohlala~~ Taiwanese Korean Co-production with lot's of man-handling

  • He's Coming To Me

    30. He's Coming To Me

    Thai Drama - 2019, 8 episodes

    9.5

    novel idea. very cute. vanilla. The role fits Singto to a T

  • Entre Nosotros

    31. Entre Nosotros

    Thai Drama - 2022, 12 episodes

    9.5

    Great chemistry, very suave romance. But one disgustingly fake HEA. Just skip ep 12.

  • Pornographer

    32. Pornographer

    Japanese Drama - 2018, 6 episodes

    9.0

    intensly erotic & kinky, and mildly dark at times. Three things I always count on with Japanese BL. This one delivered and it was great.

  • Before Your Eyes Stop

    33. Before Your Eyes Stop

    Korean Drama - 2020, 8 episodes

    9.0

    amazing chemistry. lots of skinship. The top Korean  BL on the list

  • Romantic Station

    34. Romantic Station

    Thai Movie - 2020

    9.0

    mini movie

  • His

    35. His

    Japanese Movie - 2020

    9.0

    sweet, endearing, slow-pace love story.

  • 30Sai made Doteida to Mahotsukai ni Narerurashi

    36. 30Sai made Doteida to Mahotsukai ni Narerurashi

    Japanese Drama - 2020, 12 episodes

    9.0

    very vanilla. This could have done with a bit lot more skinship. 

  • I'm Tee Me Too

    37. I'm Tee Me Too

    Thai Drama - 2020, 8 episodes

    9.0

    they cast the holy trinity of BL and didn't make a BL - But 8 eps of fanservice <3

  • A Crimson Mark

    38. A Crimson Mark

    Korean Movie - 2004

    9.0

    mini movie. Very early BL : 2004

  • Kiss Me Again: Pete-Kao

    39. Kiss Me Again: Pete-Kao

    Thai Special - 2018, 3 episodes

    9.0

    watched the 4h fan cut, which is much better than the official cut . solid enemies to lovers

  • Advance Bravely

    40. Advance Bravely

    Chinese Drama - 2017, 30 episodes

    9.0

    This is hilarious - I am laughing all the way to ep30. (what follows reads as sarcasm:) This is the story of 3 friends: 1 acquires a boy toy, 1 plays sugar daddy and the last developes a ginormous man-crush on a guy who cooks, raises birds, does half-naked kung fu in the rain, has a sexy motor bike, and bangages feet (did I miss one?)
    I cannot believe grown men agreed to film this. XD There is no story arc. No continous story unfolds, there is no drama, no twist, no problem, just episode after episode of hilarious encounters (or if any progress can be seen, it's in the increasing degrees for casual skinship between MLs). So random - and what is going on with that ending? so abrupt. 9* for eyecandy, good skinship and hilarity. But nothing special.

  • Me haces bailar

    41. Me haces bailar

    Korean Drama - 2021, 8 episodes

    9.0

    cheezy. But there is just something about dancing men that's just really beautiful.

  • Half

    42. Half

    Thai Special - 2021, 1 episode

    9.0

    Mix and earth mini movie + MV. More pls!

  • Just Friends?

    43. Just Friends?

    Korean Movie - 2009

    9.0

    mini movie

  • TharnType Special

    44. TharnType Special

    Thai Special - 2020, 1 episode

    9.0

    Special EPs are not usually my thing, but this one ties in nicely

  • Mi Hombre Hermoso

    45. Mi Hombre Hermoso

    Japanese Drama - 2021, 6 episodes

    9.0

    Not the obsession/powerplay story it was made out to be. But very good writing non-theless.

  • Call Boy

    46. Call Boy

    Japanese Movie - 2018

    8.5

    hauntingly erotic.

  • Love's Coming

    47. Love's Coming

    Thai Movie - 2014

    8.5

    Watched for Mild (P'No in LBC). Charming movie .
    I either need to uprate WBL or down rate this. cannot decide. They should be the same

  • Por Siempre No. 1

    48. Por Siempre No. 1

    Taiwanese Drama - 2021, 6 episodes

    8.0

    This was the first drama of the 2020 BL boom. Same writer who wrote most of the HIstory Series.

  • My Dear Loser Series: Edge of 17

    49. My Dear Loser Series: Edge of 17

    Thai Drama - 2017, 9 episodes

    8.0

    So much better than you might expect! Even Oh's story line really grows on you! Very good character developement and well developed friends

  • Manera de Morir

    50. Manera de Morir

    Thai Drama - 2020, 14 episodes

    8.0

    binged it! strong for a BL - decent for a crime drama. Still some of the best snogging 

  • A Man Who Defies the World of BL

    51. A Man Who Defies the World of BL

    Japanese Special - 2021, 1 episode

    7.5

    The most hilarious parody of BL.

  • Water Boyy The Series

    52. Water Boyy The Series

    Thai Drama - 2017, 14 episodes

    7.5

    Watch for New, men in swimming trunks and some daddy-kink (the side couples are a mess in this one)

  • Fish Upon the Sky

    53. Fish Upon the Sky

    Thai Drama - 2021, 12 episodes

    7.5

    fun ride. some very good  scenes. I actually preferred the side couple in this. In the end it gets a bit cliché. BL outside the engineering faculty (although it's not like that is relevant to the story)

  • TharnType 2 : Siete Años De Amor

    54. TharnType 2 : Siete Años De Amor

    Thai Drama - 2020, 12 episodes

    7.5

    watch for MewGulf's chemistry and Mild as P'No is still the master of hilarious facial expressions. The power play got much toned down. Type is practically tame. Delicious skinship, but the story is meh with a dash of anticlimax towards the end. #trigger warning: This drama gave me slump

  • Semantic Error

    55. Semantic Error

    Korean Drama - 2022, 8 episodes

    7.5

    Better than most K-BL.

  • KinnPorsche

    56. KinnPorsche

    Thai Drama - 2022, 14 episodes

    7.5

    Expectation blown out of proportion. Not the tough love I hoped it would be.  And Vegas story line... dark and forbidden and ... sadly so disappointing. This could have been mature and 18+ but somebody forgot to edit the script into something adult. Would watch again for the grand budget & directing.

  • Second Chance The Series

    57. Second Chance The Series

    Thai Drama - 2021, 6 episodes

    7.5

    The dance scene is one of the most expressive and subtle things I've seen. I was quite surprised by this short series, although the story is nothing special.

  • Water Boyy The Movie

    58. Water Boyy The Movie

    Thai Movie - 2015

    I watched about half way so far. It's tricky bc the series explains a lot more details. Maybe I should have watched this first. Much better chemistry between leads but a bit confusing at times. 

  • Our Skyy

    59. Our Skyy

    Thai Drama - 2018, 5 episodes

    7.5

    Ep1: Off x Gun (Puppy Honey) - bit of a freaky friday thing.
    Ep2:  (My dear loser) - the happy ending. beautiful Thai country side. They have  a very gentle dynamic.
    Ep3:  (Cause you're my boy)   - -
    Ep4: Pete x Kao: weirdly enchanting story. Kao being a bit bossy here suits him and Pete being obidient is very sexy. Loved the tangerine tree!
    Ep5: Kongpob x Arthit. Weak story but powerful acting. and now it's really over :(

  • Make It Right: The Series

    60. Make It Right: The Series

    Thai Drama - 2016, 12 episodes

    7.5

    really really really cute and funny and well done. <== that's the most non-descript comment on this list. But for the life of me, I have nothing more concrete to say. The actors are young in this, so I don't feel the same kind of pull as with other dramas.

  • HIStory2: Right or Wrong

    61. HIStory2: Right or Wrong

    Taiwanese Special - 2018, 8 episodes

    7.5

    The tag is #wholesome. If you are still waiting for a dark, forbidden teacher-student story - this is not it

  • HIStory3: Make Our Days Count

    62. HIStory3: Make Our Days Count

    Taiwanese Special - 2019, 20 episodes

    7.5

    CAVE: only 1 of 2 get a HEA :(  - but good chemistry

  • Color Rush

    63. Color Rush

    Korean Drama - 2020, 8 episodes

    7.5

    Loved the premise. really something new. CAVE: it gets a little dark at the end. But there's a HEA

  • Life Senjou no Bokura: Director's Cut

    64. Life Senjou no Bokura: Director's Cut

    Japanese Movie - 2020

    7.5

    This one is actually very good. Good chemistry, good acting, solid story. But the middle and end were not my cup of tea story-wise. 

  • Double Mints

    65. Double Mints

    Japanese Movie - 2017

    7.0

    Really intense powerplay and role inversion, but I could have done without the rape scene.  but HEA of  a sort... #TagsDon'tLie

  • Gameboys

    66. Gameboys

    Filipino Drama - 2020, 13 episodes

    7.0

    The lockdown video format is super cute. Feels very natural and more like an revamped Bravo lovestory

  • Dark Blue Kiss

    67. Dark Blue Kiss

    Thai Drama - 2019, 12 episodes

    Another relationship rollercoaster. Not sure I can take it after Together with me 2.
    1 ep in and it's already exhausting and a rehash of Together with me - will probably remain unfinished

  • Anti Reset

    68. Anti Reset

    Taiwanese Drama - 2024, 10 episodes

    7.0

    pop-up BL. low budet, superficial plot developement, even insta-love. But really enjoyable. XD juxtaposed much?

  • Bed Friend

    69. Bed Friend

    Thai Drama - 2023, 10 episodes

    7.0

    MEOW **** 10/10 for the kitty play. That caught me off guard!

    And the best line in the history of BL: 'Ey, does your shirt not have a button?' 

    This one is colourful. Nevermind the story. Uea is beautiful. Every ounce of him exudes this and they let him pose like a model. A LOT.  Which is good because his acting is nothing special. 

    P'King bringing back the guy-liner is also quite funny.

  • Cupid's Last Wish

    70. Cupid's Last Wish

    Thai Drama - 2022, 10 episodes

    7.0

    I am in this love/ hate reationship with MixEarth. I watch all their stuff, the stories are novel, romantic, more real-life with less drama, great writing/directing, relatable characters, growth & connection, and intense chemistry, but I always end up finding them a bit boring and slow. Same here. Yet I can't wait for the next one. Maybe because it doesn't tick any of my kink boxes and is just really amazing soul food.

    really well done body switch

  • En of Love: Love Mechanics

    71. En of Love: Love Mechanics

    Thai Drama - 2020, 4 episodes

    7.0

    I actually loved the idea and dynamic of this. But it's a bit rushed at points and confusing. Mark was a great character.  They announced a special which would be an exptention but no airing date so far

  • Formula 17

    72. Formula 17

    Taiwanese Movie - 2004

    7.0

    Formula17 was the first BL I ever saw. Not just Asian.

  • Mr Yan Dong! Don’t Come Over

    73. Mr Yan Dong! Don’t Come Over

    Chinese Drama - 2018, 10 episodes

    7.0

    Curious picture story format. Bad case of Second Lead Syndrome

  • To My Star (Movie)

    74. To My Star (Movie)

    Korean Movie - 2021

    7.0

    actually a bit non-descript

  • Han Zi Gao - The Male Queen

    75. Han Zi Gao - The Male Queen

    Chinese Movie - 2016

    7.0

    based on a historical person. filmed like a tale. no great depth

  • His - Koi Suru Tsumori Nante Nakatta

    76. His - Koi Suru Tsumori Nante Nakatta

    Japanese Drama - 2019, 5 episodes

    7.0

    sort of feels like a prequel to HIS - the movie. It's not, but you could watch it that way.  The end was a bit abrupt.

  • The Love that Dare Not Speak Its Name

    77. The Love that Dare Not Speak Its Name

    Hong Kong Drama - 2021, 6 episodes

    7.5

    mini series. butterflies and coffee romance. open-end

  • The First Love Story

    78. The First Love Story

    Korean Special - 2021, 2 episodes

    7.0

    mini movie. Same feel but not as good as 'Just-Friends?'

  • Love Storm

    79. Love Storm

    Thai Drama - 2022, 13 episodes

    7.0

    MAME gone mainstream. Puppy love.
    Prapai had huge potential and I loved the one night stand story but thereafter he's just too white knight

  • HIStory4: Close to You

    80. HIStory4: Close to You

    Taiwanese Drama - 2021, 20 episodes

    7.0

    ah... this one had mixed reviews. Fortunately the Jongjie/XingSi storyline is my kink- so i loved this one. The rest is disgustingly sweet ;)

  • Kimi ni wa Todokanai

    81. Kimi ni wa Todokanai

    Japanese Drama - 2023, 8 episodes

    7.0

    manga adaptation, but charmingly done.

  • See You After Quarantine?

    82. See You After Quarantine?

    Taiwanese Drama - 2021, 10 episodes

    7.0

    This one has nothing on BoysLockdown. Some cute scenes.

  • Bad Roomate

    83. Bad Roomate

    Thai Drama - 2021, 30 episodes

    6.5

    TikTok web format. 5min eps, not high-end but really well executed considering

  • HIStory: My Hero

    84. HIStory: My Hero

    Taiwanese Special - 2017, 4 episodes

    6.5

    Is it even BL if the soul occupying the body is technically female?

  • HIStory: Stay Away From Me

    85. HIStory: Stay Away From Me

    Taiwanese Special - 2017, 4 episodes

    6.5

    faux-incest really works for me

  • A Tale of a Thousand Stars

    86. A Tale of a Thousand Stars

    Thai Drama - 2021, 10 episodes

    6.5

    that took a bad turn towards the end. Earth and Mix get cast in these insanely romantic, emotional, silent-waters-run-deep-plots.

  • Senior Secret Love: Puppy Honey

    87. Senior Secret Love: Puppy Honey

    Thai Drama - 2016, 6 episodes

    6.5

    look beyond the childish title. Watch for the original OffxGun. Gun on the offense

  • Senior Secret Love: Puppy Honey 2

    88. Senior Secret Love: Puppy Honey 2

    Thai Drama - 2017, 8 episodes

    6.5

    Gun and OFF are awesome as usual. I like this slightly emotional abuse to their dynamic. But here their story is just superficial. Nothing compared to theory of love

  • Ryu Sun Bi's Wedding Ceremony

    89. Ryu Sun Bi's Wedding Ceremony

    Korean Drama - 2021, 8 episodes

    6.0

    yay for rocking the sub-genre!

  • Teñido de Ti

    90. Teñido de Ti

    Korean Drama - 2021, 8 episodes

    6.0

    time-travelling theme.

  • No Regret

    91. No Regret

    Korean Movie - 2006

    6.0

    I can't even remember watching this - lol

  • Bad Buddy

    92. Bad Buddy

    Thai Drama - 2021, 12 episodes

    5.0

    Oho - look at Ohm suddenly showing off all kinds of cheekbones and flirting skills! He really outgrew the gentle features of He's coming to me. 

    Strong start. Watch for the iconic kiss in ep 5. Thereafter your either love it or hate it.

  • Ai No Kotodama

    93. Ai No Kotodama

    Japanese Movie - 2008

    6.0
  • En of Love: This is Love Story

    94. En of Love: This is Love Story

    Thai Drama - 2020, 3 episodes

    5.0

    somehow the age-gap is awkward... or they just don't feel comfortable acting together... idk

  • Golden Blood

    95. Golden Blood

    Thai Drama - 2021, 8 episodes

    5.0

    Gun as ML! But I think I preferred Gun as hapless, clueless senior getting seduced by a younger man. Very odd chemistry in this one and the back story is a bit ridiculous.

  • Love is like a Cat

    96. Love is like a Cat

    Korean Drama - 2024, 12 episodes

    5.0

     There are no cats. No one is a wer-cat either (I thought that would be it)

    If you’re looking for a show with cute animals in it, you won’t find it here, and you’re honestly better off just watching dog or cat videos on Youtube.

  • Paint with Love

    97. Paint with Love

    Thai Drama - 2021, 12 episodes

    dnf. sue me. Probably works for most people, though.

  • Baker Boys

    98. Baker Boys

    Thai Drama - 2021, 12 episodes

    dnf. 

    Remake of Japanese original. This role does not fit Singto to a t. He's just too teddy bear to pull off the irresistible gay conquerer. I wish I could give this a higher rating...

  • HIStory: Obsessed

    99. HIStory: Obsessed

    Taiwanese Special - 2017, 4 episodes

    5.0

    Sorry, were you expecting a wholesome relationship or a morale at the end?  What part of the title gave you that misguided idea?   The problem is : what sissy-crap is this?

  • Laws of Attraction

    100. Laws of Attraction

    Thai Drama - 2023, 8 episodes

    5.0

    I am constantly going back and forth between dropping and binging. This has strong lakorn feel - not much to look at in terms of cinematography or editing. Bouncing between brutal and cringy. I think Film's acting is what makes this difficult to watch for me. He borders on loony lawyer, although I am given to understand his smile is supposed to be sexy. He is more authentic later but he still shows those lewd smiles in the most inappropriate moments. I am all for ravishing the drunk, but I am surprised that i draw the line at seducing a man who is emotionally wrecked by the death of his baby niece. And the abused rich boy and his bodyguard should be my kink but somehow that's even worse of a plot line.

    Jam is actually a very good actor and makes the whole thing worth watching.

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